Loom content (IBM vs MAC)

Discussion in 'Loom' started by Ahenobarbus, Aug 4, 2018.

  1. Ahenobarbus

    Ahenobarbus Member

    What are the differences between Loom IBM and MAC box contents?
    I have two sealed ones and the MAC version weights 358 g even with the Hintbook enclosed sticker!
    IBM 1.st release weights 432 g.
    Museum doesn`t give a clue where the weight difference is coming from. There are obviously disc differences (3,5" vs 5,25") between the boxes, but ibm is 74 grams heavier and my scale should be pretty accurate! o_O
    Is it Adventurer magazine or something else?

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    Last edited: Aug 4, 2018
  2. omar

    omar Member

    I've weight some similar releases in my collection (that' I store sealed).
    I think the Macs I weighed have the same label sticker on the box (glued not folded), and judging by the "Free Hint book" sticker I'd guess your copy was released after my later copy.

    Just to double check, your copy doesn't have folded corners, does it?

    Note my "LucasArts Archive" with the same "Free Hint book" sticker did not contain any Adventurer:

    Since your copy is a later release it might not contain an Adventurer and maybe no cassette and/or inlay?
    Without The adventurer and cassette the copy would weigh about 280g.

    If you rattle it, do you hear a cassette floating around in there?

    IBM 5.25", 429g:

    Mac 3.5" (earlier), 379g:

    Mac 3,5" (later), 397g

    Hint book, 84g (no carbord support):

    The Adventure #9: 55g.
    Cassette: 63g.
    Cardboard inlay: 32g.
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  3. Ahenobarbus

    Ahenobarbus Member

    Thanks Omar and sorry to answer so late, I have been quite busy in last two weeks.

    Something is definitely floating inside the box when I`m turning it around. MAC box seems to have folded corners and my old IBM release glued corners.
  4. omar

    omar Member

    The boxes I weighed were the glued corner versions (assumed it was one of them since they're much more common).
    The folded corners box is about 100g while the glued one is about 120g.

    A folded corner version of Loom should not contain the cardboard inlay and it's common that later releases don't contain an "Adventurer" magazine.
    The later book of patterns did not require a viewer and was lighter, odds are it's included with this copy.

    If you think you can hear a cassette in there, I would guess the content is:
    1x Box. 100g
    3x 3.5" floppies. 65g
    1x Cassette. 63g
    1x Manual (Mac). 12g
    1x Book of Pattern (later, no viewer). 38g
    1x Hint book (no plastic seal). 82g
    Also possibly a "Support" leaflet.

    Don't know how accurate my scale is, think there might be at least a 1g +/- discrepancy on the measurements.

    If you're unsure if it has folded corners or not you can compare the top/bottom of the left/right sides of the box to your copy of DOTT (in the above picture). Should be similar, I.E. a visible slit along the edges.
  5. Ahenobarbus

    Ahenobarbus Member

    Here is a better picture: From left to right there is: Loom IBM (glued), Loom MAC (folded), MI2 (glued), DOTT (folded).
    (Loom boxes are in different order in earlier picture Aug.5)

    1x Box. 100g
    3x 3.5" floppies. 65g
    1x Cassette. 63g
    1x Manual (Mac). 12g
    1x Book of Pattern (later, no viewer). 38g
    1x Hint book (no plastic seal). 82g
    This roster seems to be pretty accurate, thanks again omar :)

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  6. omar

    omar Member

    No problem.

    Yeah, that box is definitely a folded corner version. :)

    Just too bad I didn't find any detailed information of the content of similar CIB copies, I.E. Mac release with folded corners and a "Free Hint Book" stickers (to be 100% sure of the content)... :(
    Will have to check my unsorted docs when I get the time, might have some reference information there. :)
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